Character Name? Taelor

Why do you want to join IC? Is there someone in the guild you respect, like, or made a good impression on you? - Iron Circle was recommended to me by Ruana on another WOW forum as one that might be what I was looking for. Taelor was on Arathor, but I was becoming frustrated with the large guild I was in there and the crowded conditions on Arathor. I read your FAQ and browsed the forums here and found that Iron Circle seems to be what I am looking for in a guild. I have now transfered Taelor to Llane.

Are you leaving a guild? Without trashing anyone or the guild, please explain why this guild no longer suits you. - Please see above. I have not been in any guilds here on Llane.

What kind of player are you? Casual/Typical/Hardcore? Raider/Non-raider? PVP/Non-pvp? I would call myself a casual to typical player. I enjoy a BG from time to time and have experienced raiding up to 10 man Naxx on another char. I have been playing WOW since just before BC was released and feel my game knowledge is good.

What kind of atmosphere are you looking for? Iron Circle is primarily a Family type atmosphere of everyone trying to help the rest to reach their goals and have fun, we're not a raiding guild? Is this what you're looking for? I am definitely looking for a Family type atmosphere for my playing time. While I enjoy raiding from time to time, it is not a daily need by any means, as my schedule probably does not allow that.

I am a 58 yo man with three grown children and a wife of course. My son also plays WOW, but is not on Llane.

Character class? Priest - Dual spec'd Holy/Shadow
Level? 80
Alts? level 10 BE Mage, I used to check out Llane.
Keys? none yet
Attunement? none yet
Professions and Levels? Tailoring 390
Raiding experience? Yes, but not on this char - I have a 80 Priest on The Scryers who has raided as healer for OS 10 and Naxx 10 (only The Arachnid Quarter)

Hello, Taelor! Thanks for the application, looks good!
Planning on leveling that mage? Fire or frost?

I'm online often, any time you want to do anything -hang out or even just chitter- feel free to look for me!

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Huzzah - 80 | Sadgasm - 80 | Instapuppy - 80 | Pishaw - 80 | Bootycakes - 80 | Deathy - 80 | Kersplat - 71 | Squids - 60 | Kleptomaniac - 21 | Crackers - 80 |

Puking hypothetical rainbows, brb

kodo here, if you are ever in need of a DPS, have stick will travel... im more then happy to leave frozen wastes behind me hope to see you in game some time and best of luck

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Thanks Huzzah and Kodo! On the mage, it's not a big priority, but he may get leveled eventually. I used to always play frost, but have found fire to be interesting lately.

I will give you a shout if I see you on.

Glad to see your app, Taelor! I've been out of commission over the weekend, so I didn't catch your post until just now.

I hope Llane seems like it would be a good fit for you, and IC as well!

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"Well, hey, I didn't spend all those years playing Dungeons & Dragons and not learn a little something about courage."
"Tanks are the only Class/Spec that makes you fight NPCs and members of your group at the same time." - Sig seen on the General Forums

Thanks Ruana! I hope you are healing well!

Wah! Physiologically, you could be my dad! And, even though I lost track of the finer details of IC's demographic pyramid, I think I'm still somewhere around the second or third oldest member around!!

I wonder how hard I should fight to avoid dropping back one level on that particular ladder...

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Wÿrg spouts some nonsense in English.

I say we vote him in....cause I really don't wanna be the oldest in the guild. I say we move over and let someone else take over!

If you need anyone to group up with just give a holler in ICAPP...or we'll just ninja invite and you'll get stuck on a run with my kid again (darthkodo)

Yo, Taelor thanks for coming to the wipefest of Gundrak this afternoon!
(This is Auzuric by the way ... we have LOTS of alts ... you get the names down eventually ... kinda)
Hopefully you're around for some more afternoon mania, I'm usually on around 3:30 server time, hit me up if ya need something.

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- Zengi

As soon as you get all my toons down, I'll delete one and remake it with a different name.
Good luck.

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Huzzah - 80 | Sadgasm - 80 | Instapuppy - 80 | Pishaw - 80 | Bootycakes - 80 | Deathy - 80 | Kersplat - 71 | Squids - 60 | Kleptomaniac - 21 | Crackers - 80 |

Puking hypothetical rainbows, brb

Thanks to both groups I've been in so far! If success were measured in number of deaths, well, let's not go there. I had fun and I hope I was somewhat useful in my under-geared state.

On being the oldest, I don't mind. I know I am not the oldest in WOW overall as I have run into a few older. We didn't have this sort of thing when I was younger, so I'm playing catchup!

98% of the guild is playing catch up

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Huzzah - 80 | Sadgasm - 80 | Instapuppy - 80 | Pishaw - 80 | Bootycakes - 80 | Deathy - 80 | Kersplat - 71 | Squids - 60 | Kleptomaniac - 21 | Crackers - 80 |

Puking hypothetical rainbows, brb

hehe... im part of the 2% thats not

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Whippersnappers!

<grouches away looking for coffee>.

...T

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Huzzy: "No-one is going to ignore this. And most won't move along".
Reitoei: "Hell, no. I'm pitching a tent".
Tiren: "(!)"

Hunterin' since '04.

You forget about Ugs too easily.

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The Way of a Warrior is based on humanity, love, and sincerity; the heart of martial valor is true bravery, wisdom, love, and friendship. Emphasis on the physical aspects of warriorship is futile, for the power of the body is always limited.

O Sensei - Morihei Ueshiba

I tan I epi tas

It's an age thing I guess.

I sense a story here. Please share if it is permitted.

One of our guildies has a character named Uglyone, his old main, nicknamed Ugs. He's the oldest in the guild, IIRC, but still only in the 40s range. You'd beat them all by quite a bit upon entering IC!

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"Well, hey, I didn't spend all those years playing Dungeons & Dragons and not learn a little something about courage."
"Tanks are the only Class/Spec that makes you fight NPCs and members of your group at the same time." - Sig seen on the General Forums

Thanks again to all for the H VH run this afternoon. Got my first purple, but more important than that was the additional opportunity to interact with IC!

As some may have noticed, I have joined Lobotomy. I hope this does not hurt my chances with IC as I am still hoping to join you all. I can't say anything against Lobotomy, but from what I have seen, I like IC better and feel I fit in more there.

Shouldn't be any problem, Taelor!

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Huzzah - 80 | Sadgasm - 80 | Instapuppy - 80 | Pishaw - 80 | Bootycakes - 80 | Deathy - 80 | Kersplat - 71 | Squids - 60 | Kleptomaniac - 21 | Crackers - 80 |

Puking hypothetical rainbows, brb

I haven't had a chance to get to know you unfortunately, but this has always made me question the applicant's intentions. I also find that the applicant typically has less interest or opportunity to join groups if they join another guild while going through our process. It also makes me question the loyalty of the applicant, if they join a guild and ditch it a week later, what's to stop them from doing the same with us. These of course arent the only criteria that's considered when voting, however it usually makes me question the rest, mostly from similar past experiences. I'm not completely unreasonable though, so feel free to message me in game if you'd like to discuss it more, typically on Bloodaxe or Nightborn these days.

Hope we can group sometime soon as well.

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The Way of a Warrior is based on humanity, love, and sincerity; the heart of martial valor is true bravery, wisdom, love, and friendship. Emphasis on the physical aspects of warriorship is futile, for the power of the body is always limited.

O Sensei - Morihei Ueshiba

I tan I epi tas

I can see your point and feel it is valid up to a point, but let me share my point of view with you.

I submitted my application with IC just before the point in June where you make your decision for the month. I understand that you all had not had any contact with me at that time, so a decision would not be possible.

With the knowledge that I could not be considered until I believe it was the third week in July, I felt I could accept this guild's invitation. I did not seek them. They approached me. I have only had one outing with them while I have had several more with IC. I must say that having been in the ICapp channel since applying, the contact there has been spotty, but I understand that I can't see what is going on in the IC guild channel and with that being busy, no time is available for ICapp. This I see as a flaw in your application process.

Now I am in an awkward position. Since there was no application process with Lobotomy, I see this time as a trial period where they check me out and I check them out with either one of us having the option to say - "It just is not working out". If I am going to do that, it probably should be soon, before they invest too much time in me.

The flaw you see in our application process is a byproduct of our greatest strength. We don't need to recruit. We haven't had a need for open recruitment for, sheesh, I want to say two years now. Each month we get a few candidates that have the potential worth to enhance the foundation of this guild. Each month, we get new applicants. We do not hunt for them. They come to us. Even then we only open up potential recruits in a given month to three slots.

I understand it can be frustrating as an applicant trying to get yourself known to the guild. The more successful ones have an active forum posting, which is a characteristic you yourself have indicated. However, because we have no serious need to recruit, we do not go out of our way to field test any applicants. This puts the burden on the applicant to get noticed. This puts the burden on the applicant to show they are ready and willing.

While it may sometimes seem like your efforts are going unnoticed, they are not. We take notice of every applicant that comes through and encourage members to offer their feedback on said applicant. Even then, the vote isn't always conclusive. We have several in our ranks that were denied the first month they applied, but still stuck it through to get an invite into the second month. For a few, very few, it took us three months to make up our minds.

We are not an easy guild to get into. And we're that way by choice. And we will continue to be that way. But remain persistent and patient, and your chances of gaining acceptance increase dramatically. While I also echo Longy's sentiments, I do not blame you for spreading out a bit on a new server.

Still, ask any member here, and I think they'd confirm how much pride they have in wearing the IC tag and a part of that pride comes from our difficult recruitment process. Not just anyone is going to be able to get in. But those that do are there because they deserve to be there.

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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers, for he today who sheds his blood with me shall be my brother.

im kinda iffy on the seperate guild as well, but i can understand your position.

from your app it sounds like you just got here and honestly i cant blame you for spreading out a bit, make friends in other guilds and such. heck i still have alts in ALL of my old guilds to keep up with them.

i dont fault you but there is one thing i feel i have to say, not to trash others, but without having the app process like IC the guild doesnt really get to know you and if they let in anyone then the overall quality of the guild as a whole might hit the tubes. my old guild had open recruiting for 1 week and next week everyone that was recruited was kicked by the guild leader because they werent the people that were right to push the guild further into progression. nobody knew who they were and it kinda put everyone on edge, both the raid core and the new guys.

raid core was pretty much saying who the heck are these new guys infesting our guild, ill just quietly raid with the vets of the guild, and the new guild kinda stayed in their bubble as if they were always being judged.

overall man, the people you would run into in IC you make friends with before even joining the guild rather then getting thrown in randomly. the IC app process is long... and the vote day feels like one of the longest days ever, but man it is well worth it

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My two cents....

I'm one of those applicants that took close to three months to get into guild...first by applying late and then by not having enough votes the first time around. The application process for IC may seem a pain in the neck, but in the long run I've come to appreciate the effort it takes to get into the guild.

The players "fit" with each other, while our styles of playing may not all be the same, we are all here to enjoy the game with people we get along with. It may be just me, but you don't see a lot of disagreements between guild members (although, somewhere I'm sure it happens, I may have blinders on). I would be willing to group with anyone in IC...and hopefully they feel the same about me. I believe this is what makes IC as strong as it is.

In your defense, I've made the comment to my boys (Darthkodo and Beowolf, also in guild) that it is nearly impossible to play if you are not in a guild. You end up running around doing dailies and quests all by your lonesome or stuck in a PUG (which is frightnening by itself) and after a while it just gets old.

I think that was more like 13 cents...Myrrh

Thank you all for your responses! From what I can see, IC is worth the bother. And yes, I was growing tired of just dailies and random pugs. In hindsight, I probably should not have joined the other guild, but I can't undo it now.

I guess the best I can shoot for now is to be able to retain some new friends if I am selected for IC and a way to leave that guild so that they don't feel they got the worst of the transaction.

I completely disagree with this statement. I have no clue where you get your crazy ideas from!

Your ODD teammate,
-Duck

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Hearn: I CAN'T battle rez you.
Shadymender: WHY!!!
Hearn: You aren't dead.
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Shadyspawn: T, don't stand there you will pull the pather. T, I know you will pull him - I made the same mistake last time. T, back... OMG, HE'S MISDIRECTING!!! <raid wipes - without as much as a scratch to the mob>

Let me clarify...you don't see the backstabbing, loot ninja-ing (look it up in the wow dictionary), snotty attitudes......

oh wait...what am i thinking

One of the things I'd most recommend to any applicant is to USE the /icapp channel. Don't wait for someone to ask in it for help to fill in a spot. When you log in, say hi to people in it (a /chatinfo icapp will tell you who is in it), and ask if anyone needs help or wants some company on dailies or questing. That's not to say pollute it too much with random chatter, but if you don't put yourself forward, many of the ICers won't think to go to /icapp (though I have often pointed guildies looking for filling out their group to go there) until after the group is already full.

And if you have some quests YOU need help with, it's totally fine to ask in /icapp. As an example, yesterday afternoon my mage completed Dragonblight and had the Reallly Big Worm quest. I knew my shaman had had that sitting in her log for a long time too. Fortunately, both are on different accounts, so I dual boxed them in completing that quest. If there had been some applicants in /icapp, I would have asked if anyone could help out with it (but the only ones online at that point were ICers).

Put yourself forward!

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"Well, hey, I didn't spend all those years playing Dungeons & Dragons and not learn a little something about courage."
"Tanks are the only Class/Spec that makes you fight NPCs and members of your group at the same time." - Sig seen on the General Forums

hey cyl, its kodo, i posted on the wrong account XD

any way to delete this post while not killing the thread?



KODO IS A NOOB!

i remember one of the quickest ways to garter attention was to try and start groups in icapp. i logged on and either invites were thrown my way, or i ninja'd people in the guild for groups.

if your feeling really adventurous create a naxx run (gear isnt an issue)... everyone signs up and has a blast and it awards you with having a blast maybe getting some new gear and getting to know people.

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Hey Taelor! I know I said we should do heroics today and I haven't really been able to yet! Hoping we'll still get the chance =) Not sure when I'll be back on.

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Huzzah - 80 | Sadgasm - 80 | Instapuppy - 80 | Pishaw - 80 | Bootycakes - 80 | Deathy - 80 | Kersplat - 71 | Squids - 60 | Kleptomaniac - 21 | Crackers - 80 |

Puking hypothetical rainbows, brb

I'm about ready to get back on. If we can, it will be good, but I know how it goes sometimes!

I haven't had much opportunity to do much the last weeks but feel compelled to throw out my 0.02 - I don't blame u for joining Lobo.. its nice having SOMEONE to chatter with in a semi controled environment outside of /1 . I spend more time random bantering in Gchat than doing anything really constructive anymore, I pay my 15 bucks much for the social aspect. I don't question your motives regarding them - or IC. its nice being part of a community (even if its a temporary 'home') with out that IMO WoW is pretty boring. I mean, once you've done almost everything 10 times, what else do ya have?

I haven't had a chance to grp with ya - but keep pluggin away - IC is full of good people.

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Logitech just came out with a new PvP keyboard, just for locks.
It has two buttons, one labeled "fear" - the other "release".

Yes, I have observed that!

Thanks Carsic! I look forward to meeting you sometime.

In the interest of full discloser and after much serious thought, I have left Lobotomy. I felt it was the fairest thing to do for them and IC, before they had invested too much time and gear with me. I left in good terms with them hopefully.

ICapp has been fairly active at times lately and I am enjoying that interaction! I'm looking forward to the Naxx run Wednesday.

Hey Tae,

Yep, saw you signed up. A fair warning for Wednesday:

Please keep in mind that we're farming Naxx25 .. it's not a progress run for us. We will be using Master Loot to keep the raid pace up, so as a healer just keep moving with the raid. If you win something, it'll magically appear in your bags when I loot it to you.

Regarding loot rules: Please read the Iron Circle "Loot Philosophy" portion of the various sticky posts. In general, my quick summary is:

Try to limit yourself to one non-set and one set piece for your main spec that you roll on in a run (i.e., roll against and beat other people). That said, as I noted we're farming the hell out of Naxx25 and I see quite a few geared mains showing up ... so. The other thing I WILL NOT DO (nor will IC) is to shard a piece of loot that someone would actually equip and use. So don't feel bad if I call, "Roll for [item]" and you're the only one who's interested. Just keep in mind if you've won 3-4 items already by default (because no-one has rolled), and you roll and win something else (over other interested parties), I'll probably ask you to pass 'cause I like to spread loot around too.

Cheers, T

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Huzzy: "No-one is going to ignore this. And most won't move along".
Reitoei: "Hell, no. I'm pitching a tent".
Tiren: "(!)"

Hunterin' since '04.

And I have no problem with that. My attitude is that any gear I gain is extra bonus. The experience of the run and being useful to the raid is primary!

We're supposed to be useful in a raid?!?!?! Why didn't anyone tell me this before?

Don't worry Myrr, you provide an invaluable service in the raids. Someone has to keep the Myrr minions in line.

(that, and the DPS, and the flasks, and the good conversation/humor, and ...)
-Duck

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Hearn: I CAN'T battle rez you.
Shadymender: WHY!!!
Hearn: You aren't dead.
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Shadyspawn: T, don't stand there you will pull the pather. T, I know you will pull him - I made the same mistake last time. T, back... OMG, HE'S MISDIRECTING!!! <raid wipes - without as much as a scratch to the mob>

Please don't tell me you opened this can of worms <shakin head>

it takes more then an old coot to keep me in line... im nutz!!!

creative boredom

crazy i am and crazy i do
how long will it be
till the crazy afflicts you?

wandering in the epitaphs of wasted time
wondering what to do
endlessly the bells chime

playing my craft in this world of war
i wander around endlessly
what a bore


3 different sets of 3 lines, and none of them fit together... man i really am nutz =D

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Wow, I had no idea! Sorry guys....:-p *slinks off*

Oh, and the summons - most notably the summons. If it wasn't for Myrr, I'd have to figure our where these damn dungeons actually are! All hail to Myrr's TV!

Your reverent teammate,
-Duck


PS:
And Darth: You poser, we all know you're a moma's boy. (The "crazy" part is believable though.)


Just wait...

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Hearn: I CAN'T battle rez you.
Shadymender: WHY!!!
Hearn: You aren't dead.
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Shadyspawn: T, don't stand there you will pull the pather. T, I know you will pull him - I made the same mistake last time. T, back... OMG, HE'S MISDIRECTING!!! <raid wipes - without as much as a scratch to the mob>

Lol... it's ok, but really, now you know.

Cheers, T

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Huzzy: "No-one is going to ignore this. And most won't move along".
Reitoei: "Hell, no. I'm pitching a tent".
Tiren: "(!)"

Hunterin' since '04.

Actually Taelor, you're off to a good start. Thread derailment is almost a requirement around here.

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- Zengi

Can't ya'all just hear T's voice in the back of your head saying "Stay on target"

The reality is I can barely hear my own voice above the cacophony of the other voices in my head.

...T

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Huzzy: "No-one is going to ignore this. And most won't move along".
Reitoei: "Hell, no. I'm pitching a tent".
Tiren: "(!)"

Hunterin' since '04.

I was going to say, some of the best applicants we've had have had major thread derailments in their app post.

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"Well, hey, I didn't spend all those years playing Dungeons & Dragons and not learn a little something about courage."
"Tanks are the only Class/Spec that makes you fight NPCs and members of your group at the same time." - Sig seen on the General Forums

According to Deth, it's more like "Could everyone bunch up please."
Chain heal ftw!

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- Zengi

Hey, if you don't want heals, feel free to stand off in a corner by yourself. But don't bitch to me when you die... (I'm looking at YOU, Ahearn.)

...T

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Huzzy: "No-one is going to ignore this. And most won't move along".
Reitoei: "Hell, no. I'm pitching a tent".
Tiren: "(!)"

Hunterin' since '04.